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I want to reiterate; I'm not stuck on a brand, I am stuck on value. And having competition in the midrange from two separate suppliers is very, very good for increasing value.
Nvidia still owns the crown at the high end. Competition in the low end GPUs for Performance per dollar has always been tight. But up until just now, Nvidia owned the midrange market that catches most PC gamer's money. That has suddenly changed. Once AMD supplies matured drivers and manufacturers have made 5700 & 5700XT cards that use superior cooling systems, (both should be in place this fall), Nvidia is going to have a real fight to hang onto those dollars.
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Wow, it looks like Nvidia is getting proactive! I just got an ad from Newegg saying they had an RTX 2070 for $399! That is about $200 off. So you can see how beneficial it is to us, the gaming community, Competition breeds tech advancement (Nvidia is releasing their 'Super' cards in answer to the AMD5700's) and aggressive pricing. So, WE WIN!
olepi post_id=22812 time=1562688194 user_id=6950 said:
AMD also makes all the CPU/GPU's for the Playstation and XBox. Here's an interesting article on the upcoming PS5:
"> ... es-1213409">[Permission to view this media is denied] 3rd generation 7nm Ryzen 2, with Navi graphics, and an ultra high-speed SSD drive.
Today's super AMD parts are made using 7nm technology. I can say that these were designed last year, and we haven't stopped in the year since then.
I priced out a new system with a slick RGB case, 700W PSU and these parts;
*MSI X570 AM4 motherboard - there were cheaper motherboards, but this one had everything I would want
*32GB DDR4-3000 memory - 2X16 kit, so it can be upgraded to 64GB if desired
*Ryzen 7 3700X CPU - comes with the awesome Wraith cooler
*MSI 5700XT video card
*1TB NvME SSD
*1TB 7200RPM 64mb cahe HDD
*Win 10 Home OEM
It all priced out at $1409. That is a lot of machine for the cash! This should perform at the smae level as an i7-9700 system with a RTX 2070 video card, for quite a bit less money.
That said, I would wait before I invested in this. All of the 5700XT vids are using the stock configuration with the lame stock cooling. Wait until manufacturers make some with better cooling systems. Also, the expected resounding price war may push the prices for the vid and CPU even lower!
3rd generation 7nm Ryzen 2, with Navi graphics, and an ultra high-speed SSD drive.
Today's super AMD parts are made using 7nm technology. I can say that these were designed last year, and we haven't stopped in the year since then.
Nvidia may still have the fastest video cards - for now - but very few people spend the cash to get the top of the line, especially when that $1000+ top of the line video card is a door stop in less than 7 years. In 2012 the top of the line video card was a GTX780 Ti with 6 GB DDR5 VRAM. It is still a viable card in today's market, but it is not as fast nor as capable as what you can buy for a bit over $200 USD now. You could have bought an almost as fast $300 video card and replaced it every 3 years (2015 & 2018) and still be $100 ahead, while almost surpassing that super card's performance with the one you bought in 2015, and blowing it away with the 2018 card.
Currently, in the market that most PC gamers play in, the GPU performance per dollar crown most definitely goes to AMD with their NAVI chipped Radeon 5700 and 5700XT cards. These cards compete favorably with the RTX 2060 and RTX 2070. And they are much cheaper. Nvidia is getting ready to release their RTX 'Super' cards, but these will not return the value per dollar crown to them. Only cutting prices will do that.
And that is the crux of the matter. Even if you live and breath Nvidia green, having competition means that prices are going to drop. That RTX 2070 card is going to have to drop in price to compete with the 5700XT. Who wins? WE DO!
The CPUs are actually in a class of their own. Intel is going to have to start looking at releasing their 10th gen CPUs faster than they were planning. Only their top of the line 9th gen i9s are faster than the AMD chips. Once again, competition not only helps pricing, but moves the tech forward.
So who wins? WE DO!
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